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This is in regards to Michael Vines video on homosexuality and my friend’s saying “must be mistranslation”.

Me: Actually that would be incorrect. Paul was in a new situation of preaching the gospel not only to Jews but also to Greeks. Several old passages about homosexuality dealt with those in pagan worship and prostitution, but Paul wanted Gentiles, those who are not God’s chosen people, to understand how sins of the flesh are wrong. He ended up using the same Greek roots necessary to create such a word to indicate it is wrong for everyone, not just Jews. There is no mistranslation, only misunderstanding.

http://christianstudies.wordpress.com/2011/05/14/230/

http://carm.org/matthew-vines-on-1-corinthians-6-9-10

http://www.tms.edu/tmsj/tmsj3h.pdf

There are many Greek words for “male homosexuality” (also known as pedanstry) but Paul forgoes them all for a reason. Do not simply use one source as a conclusion.

Dissenter (not my friend): that’s a lot of research to do just to come to the same ignorant, bigoted, conclusion. I assume you perform ritual sacrifices, own slaves, don’t ever work on sunday, don’t eat any pork, catfish, or shellfish, and payed your father-in-law a silver dowry after you rape-married his daughter…otherwise, you’re going to hell like the rest of us…But still, congratulations on AT LEAST trying to be rational in gathering information from an awe-inspiring THREE sources. Shit, most of you rednecks can barely read! Look out Duke Divinity School!!! We have a winner!!!!!!

Now I know not all atheists are like this, but how is this any better than what we see in WBC? I openly condemn that church for what they do. I am glad some of the other people told this guy off at how this became unruly. But really? Honest debate is better than strings of ad hominem and misinformation.

I love programming, but sometimes I don’t know what my teammates think. And when I have an intuitively good idea but they have no clue, I have to keep myself contained and being Major Domination. Instead I have just created the program we want my way to prove them wrong.

For reference, it’s a calendar application and they didn’t want to use numbers to represent the date, instead ask for “Monday the 12 of 2014” or whatever none sense. I’ve just created a way to make a limited calendar and get an array value to store all date we might need.

radishez:

methedras:

this is the best thing i’ve ever made 

rough

If the Islam supposedly gained it's members through fear and terror then Christianity certainly gained it's members through pure forced hell and torture in the middle ages, just to make that clear

Anonymous

grimmnir:

whytestallion:

ctrlgeek:

Only difference is that Christians don’t continue to be violent people for the sake of their religion. Those who do are severely mentally ill, whereas Islam is a completely different story.

Actually the reason Christian gained ground (at the very beginning) is through love and teaching. Now during the Middle Ages, the Bible was held only by the pope, so very few could read it let alone try to comprehend the message. There was no real torture or violence. Even the Crusades was cooked up by the king, subsequently approved by the pope. The pope did say sins would be absolved and the crusaders would go to heaven, however, that is arguably not Christianity.

The difference is that the violence of the few Christians goes directly against the Bible. Islam violence goes along with the Quran. Islam can justify the active violence, Christianity can only justify defensive violence.

whytestallion You are brushing aside the Inquisition under Sanction of the Church.  Or the witch trials in early America.  Come now, we can not be intellectually dishonest.

There was also the mass killing of pagans who refused to convert to Chrisitanity during the time Northern Europe’s political elites were  converting to Christianity for political gain.  The Church at the time condoned this as holy actions in the service of God.  One such instance was Charlemagne slaughtering hundreds of men who had surrendered but refused to convert.

The Catholic Church was ‘the’ Church from the beginning until Luther’s reforms which in his own words through biographers was to reform the  Catholic Church and not create such a Schism.

So we can not presume that the actions of the Catholic Church was somehow anomalous.

I say this given our mutual rapport and friendship not to wholesale condemn your faith.  Only to interject a bit of perspective.

Ah yes. The witch trials. I am unfamiliar with the inquisition in detail, so I appeal to my ignorance on that part.

Salem witch trials are interesting. In the one case, you have a fear of witchcraft imbued by Christianity. On the other hand, where did they come to the conclusion that witches must be kill. One could say they are Christian, Christians do not like witchcraft, therefore Christians killed “witches,” yet I do not think an adequate conclusion. Hysteria is a better conclusion than any religion or sect.

Ah, I knee pagan killings would come up. This is, perhaps, the one major flaw in my argument. I am sure they came to the conclusion this was reasonable from the OT, but it was certainly not the right way to go about things. I do no want to paint any one person or side of Christianly as flawless (except Jesus), so I must admit that to be an atrocity. Even today there are people, I’m sure, that would kill Islamists (or do kill) out of some sense of duty. I wish they would not do such a thing. We all hear about pastors doing wrong, so I certainly do not view any person as infallible.

However my point, ultimately, is that Christianity cannot be used to justify killing. Perhaps it can be twisted, as many texts, but that is not the same as Islam which needs no twisting to justify violence.

kill-the-fucking-christian:

gonna have to add fucking blogs to my ignore list. why can’t people just be fucking decent?

Bahahaha with a URL like that, I can take him 100% seriously

If the Islam supposedly gained it's members through fear and terror then Christianity certainly gained it's members through pure forced hell and torture in the middle ages, just to make that clear

Anonymous

ctrlgeek:

Only difference is that Christians don’t continue to be violent people for the sake of their religion. Those who do are severely mentally ill, whereas Islam is a completely different story.

Actually the reason Christian gained ground (at the very beginning) is through love and teaching. Now during the Middle Ages, the Bible was held only by the pope, so very few could read it let alone try to comprehend the message. There was no real torture or violence. Even the Crusades was cooked up by the king, subsequently approved by the pope. The pope did say sins would be absolved and the crusaders would go to heaven, however, that is arguably not Christianity.

The difference is that the violence of the few Christians goes directly against the Bible. Islam violence goes along with the Quran. Islam can justify the active violence, Christianity can only justify defensive violence.

I miss my philosophy classes. Mostly because I learned many new thoughts and paths to think. Now I see the same dribble from both aisles of politics (sorry but true). Original, good thoughts are few it seems

undeceased:

German Shepherd Dog painted in time for Halloween. (x)

Facebook friend posts article about homosexuality in Corinthians

I take time to correct.

One of his friends comments.

Should I look? If I do, I know I won’t be able to hold my tongue if he tries to preach to me.

http://rydenarmani.tumblr.com/post/100350545182/fake-tumlbr-oh-honey-you-wanna-be-a-hooker

iusegirlsforsex:

whytestallion:

iusegirlsforsex:

whytestallion:

rydenarmani:

fake-tumlbr:

"oh honey! you wanna be a hooker? that’s so great! dad and i thought you wanted to be a doctor but we totally respect your choice and feel so happy for you doing what you love to do!"

- tumblrinas in 30 years, probably

yes because got forbid parents support their children…

"Oh honey, you wanna stay home and live off our money? That’s fantastic! Why don’t you drop out of school? You can live in the basement!"

Yeah, no. If that view is outdated, please show me your kids when they realize you’ll baby them forever. There are such things as wrong life decisions.

I’m pretty sure the user you reblogged this from is a sex worker and makes her own money and lives with her fiancé doing it. Nice try though.

Congrats! You missed the point.

And you missed hers. Great job.

She’s saying that parents are being supportive of their child’s decision no matter what. I proposed a counter example in which a parent must decide to do that or encourage the child to take a better, more respectable path. Again, you missed my point. I’ve missed nothing.